ZBOX AUSTRALIA 70CC bicycle Motor

2009-04-27T04:25:00.000-07:00

There is a bolt on bicycle Motor specially called the Zbox in which the Series 3, 70CC has had major failings, the shipment in question would be pre March 2009 that we know about. It appears its only the brand called Zbox that is in question and while other suppliers piggyback off the Zbox webpage for instructions their motors are from a different factory it seems therefore have no known issues…

I want to show people about what they are getting themselves into with these zbox motors and agents based on my own experiences which I wil now outline in this blog then the supporting video: ( link at the end of his blog)

One agent said: (Please note the motor agents comments are all in red)
The New Zeealand agent said:

“There was one batch which has some faulty ones in it. The quality from this supplier is usually the best available. I replace anything which is faulty without question but this is still not how I like it.
Thanks for your patience and understanding” Sent Sat 28/02/2009 8:00 a.m.
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So I wanted to know what was happening elsewhere in other countries with this brand of motors. There has been no product recall or safety warnings put out about the problems and people could spend and waste many hours troubleshooting or trying to diagnose the problems, that temperamental two-stroke motors have until they are finely tuned and perform to their peek…
The response from Australia was this:

Sent from ZBOX AUSTRALIA [info@zbox.com.au], Fri 6/03/2009 5:36 a.m.

“have you ever had success at anything in your life?”
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My Response Back to the above question below:

To: 'ZBOX AUSTRALIA'
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:24 PM
Subject: RE: 70CC motors

Yes in fact I have thanks for asking, what does that have to do with the motor problems, In fact your webpage you claim “ …
“ZBOX Australia - a business of highest integrity” http://www.zbox.com.au/contact.htm
It seems zbox claims a lot but how much of it do they deliver?....
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Original Message-----From: ZBOX AUSTRALIA [mailto:info@zbox.com.au] Sent: Friday, 6 March 2009 7:03 a.m.Subject: Re: 70CC motors
“I ask that question because you come across as the class dunce...as one who prefers to blame others for your own incompetence.

Thankfully I have thousands of competent users here in Australia and I don't have to deal with you. The quality of the machinery is well recognized by thousands of happy users”
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The above response from Zbox Australia shows when people can’t argue with the facts; all they can do is try to insult you (like that helps), examples:

“Thousands of competent users here in Australia “

Is Zbox is trying to say I am not a “competent user” ?

Need I remind zbox Australia on of this: February 26, 2009 6:42 PM
“Hi Warren,
Just another example of the trouble I have had with these motors. This is number 6 of the 70cc which has failed. I have informed Alex each time but it has not been good for my reputation?

How are sales going/ Any slowdown with the times being so tight?
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Well the answers and comments so far in these email will help the Zbox reputation?..

Well that’s interesting how can the motor failures in any way be my fault “given Zbox had mentioned the word “incompetence” and made references to “competent users” that has an interesting theme to it. It would seem the faults are because of the incompetence of quality control checks, and not I for who zbox Austral is trying to blame.

Again someone called warren from Zbox said on Saturday, February 28, 2009 12:14 PM

“I too am experiencing problems with the larger engine. In the previous shipment of 500 I had about 25 failures which equates to 5% of total. I was very happy to see the end of that shipment because I had sold the faulty ones all around Australia so the logistics of fixing all the problems was quite costly”
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That’s right Zbox Australia, the fault is with the factory not I, and your attitude is unhelpful, if anyone is “blame others for your own incompetence’ I would look in a mirror it seems, given you claim “ZBOX Australia - a business of highest integrity” that claim seems to be working as well for you as your 70CC motors..

Final response from Zbox in Australia, SENT Fri 6/03/2009 10:02 a.m.

“I don't know why I am involved with your shit - I am used to dealing with men, not big girls “
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Zbox Austraila calms again that: http://www.zbox.com.au/index.htm

ZBox will have sales of over 4000 units this year. The reason for our fabulous sales success is simple:…
“Honest country service from a business of highest integrity”
Well Zbox Austraila look at this for an example of being honest and highest integrity:

These kits are tested in China and we don’t warrant their testing
We suggest you seek independent opinions of our kit buyers
Some buyers have been unable to get there kits to work
We have no technical assistance
We understand that these kits are not legal on public roads
We don’t offer any refunds

This is from a comparator selling the “F80 3500W MOTOR bicycle Motorized BIKE GAS ENGINE Kit in Australia, The F80 model is commonly sold as 80cc
By the way Zbox they sell thei Kits for around $169.00AU not the $275.00AU that you sell them for.. If you doubt this goggle it and see..
Hang on how can zbox then claim this
“ZBOX Australia is a wholesale importing business - we sell the best engineered bicycle engines and parts at the ”lowest price in Australia?

What people can do is use google and see who has the lowest price in Australia.. Hay don’t take my or their word for it goolge it people…
How can you say” for the Z80 that:
“This is our newest engine kit. It is the only bicycle engine kit in Australia to be built to international quality certification. The ZBox Super Kit is built by the largest 2 stroke engine factory in China in co-operation with Jiangsu University testing facility. It is by far the best engineered kit at the lowest wholesale price direct from Australia's largest bicycle engine importer - you should enjoy many thousand kilometres of reliable service from this high precision unit..
I contacted Jiangsu University and they did not seem to know anything about the claims being made from what I was told at the time..

People have asked why do the blog and videos, well I want what I pay for and it to be working properly, of the standard claimed and for all the parts to be in the box that are meant to be there, is that to much to ask? I waited months for a replacement motor and to be duly compensated for the inconveniences given it was my only means of transport. Even the replacement order was mucked up and 4 motors later I am really pissed off they could not get it right.
I have had experience with the 49CC & 70CC from different suppliers as my videos and photos that are coming soon will support what I have been saying…

See the supporting video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-nfS1-A4Ec

After many requests here are more photos that I did not put on the Video to prove my point about what happened to the motors:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37905697@N04/